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  • Hey. It's been a while.

    I wanted to go ahead and start updating and performing a wiki-wide updating of our templates and perhaps even the look itself. Partially, I want to go ahead and do this because I feel the wiki looks plain but I also recognize it will be beneficial to take a look at out templates and update them accordingly. My aim for the templates is to simplify them once more for ease of editing. I'll actually be looking into exactly how to color code them like before so we won't have to have an issue with that. 

    I have other ideas too that could enhance the setup and overall information displayed on our pages but I want to see your thoughts on what you think needs to be done. I don't wan to commit to updating stuff only to find it removed.

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    • Hey. Hope you're doing well, and had a good new year.

      As long you can figure out how to color code the templates again, I can adjust to the infoboxes template update. I'm not particularly great at editing them, but I can learn.

      What exactly did you have in mind to make the wiki, I guess, more vibrant? I figure my only issues wold just maintaining the readability of the text if it entails changing the color or the background. Thus far my attempts at creating better backgrounds has been rough because Wiki's file size issues and gauging where the images appear and disappear around the edges of the website's content page.

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  • I'm assuming we should tag the mobile games with non canon tag, because most of them mess the story up.

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  • Hei, during this whole mess, I noticed that almost all Kindred Blade screenshots have watermarks on them. I plan to hunt down clean ones and repload them over the old ones. Just letting you know before you see large amounts of images in the history.

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    • Alright, I think I corrected the errors. Let me know if I missed anything.

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    • Yup got them, tiny typo was left though, "Prine" instead of Prince.

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  • I looked through the logs and I don't see multiple accounts under their name.

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    • Aybora and Aybora2005 are the same user. They were removing or rewriting content in the Dark Prince and Kindred Blades articles with misinformation.

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    • Okay you may have blocked him but wikia doesn't always get it right i researched on kindred blades and the dark prince and i can safely say that he didn't write any misinformation

      the cloaked man in the ending of ww is the doppelganger as seen in the kb artwork as well he is holding the staff of time and you can see that the boots that he has in the artwork is the same boots that are in the ending of ww and he has grey skin in that artwork

      the vizier hasn't got black hair and in the artwork the character has blackhair and has an armour so he is not the vizier also the forums that were deleted in 2007 confirm that

      and his voice in the ww ending is different from both the dark princes as you can notice and when the prince arrives in babylon the creatures are already sand monster so it can't be the vizier it is the doppelganger

      so please unblock him and return his doppelganger page even killerz edited it as well so he is not a fraud and he doesn't travel back in time even Yannis confirmed it and the dagger that he is using is a simple dagger

      the forums that were deleted confirm that and say the doppelganger has the dagger and he pulled it from the past that is how he created an army of sand creatures and he placed them in babylon

      and the scene in ttt is to give a tribute to the doppelganger they wanted to recreate that scene with the dark prince so please notice this and unblock him and return his pages

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    • At this point, you're being blocked for the simple reason that you continue to bypass the blocks placed on the accounts you created for other wikis or just to keep posting here at the site. I've dealt with these kinds of situations on other Wikis before. You're not fooling anyone by saying you're the friend or brother of the user I blocked.

      The cloaked man at the end of Warrior Within is the Dark Prince. Michael Rudder's voice role in Warrior Within is credited as "The Dark Prince" on his official Internet Movie Database profile and has never been contested with information to the contrary in any official material for Warrior Within or The Two Thrones. The Dark Prince has only had two voice actors in the SOT-era, Rudder and Robin Atkin Downes. No one else.

      The Dark Prince is referred throughout the early development of Kindred Blade as the "Dark Prince". Yannis Mallat is interviewed about the progress of the game on more than one occasion (for example), and calls both halves of the Prince "Dark Prince" and "Light Prince".

      The characters in the concept art are early designs of the Vizier, the Prince, and Dark Prince - none of which carried over into The Two Thrones. The story of Kindred Blades maintains the same narrative beats of The Two Thrones with only minor alternations.

      There is no Doppelganger Prince who takes over Babylon, the Vizier was always going to be the villain of the last SOT-era game.

      The Dark Prince's design in Warrior Within is an early design of the character. Different clothes, hair, none of that disproves the fact that concept art for Kindred Blades is early concept work for the game. All of the information regarding Kindred Blades is cited from gaming sites that actually covered the game before its redevelopment into The Two Thrones.

      The only character in a SOT-era games explicitly treated like a doppelganger is the Sand Wraith, who is canonically killed in Warrior Within by the Dahaka.

      Thread discussions on Ubisoft's forums regarding Prince of Persia 3 go back as far as 2005, and most of the threads discussing Kindred Blades is fan speculation about what the game was or could've been. Any canonical references made to the game's early development are articles copy/pasted from gaming sites.

      Whatever you read on the "forums that were deleted", for lack of a better word, is bunk.

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  • Persia (1989)

    Persia in POP 2

    Hei, I've almost added all POP2 lore locations, only Persia is left, should I incorporate it into existing article, or do we separate it also between the timelines like Prince and Princess. It look different at least, might not be same kingdom, as Persian Empire was huge back then.
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    • I think in this instance, for the time being at least, it might be best to create a new article for it. The present article is heavily dedicated to the Sands of Time canon

      I'm working to update the subpage template used in the character articles so that we can use them for main articles like the Persia article.

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  • I found Mechner's POP 2 Bible here -> https://www.popot.org/documentation/documents/1991-08-08_PoP2_Design_Bible.pdf

    We can use it to find the official names to some of the PoP2 enemies.

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    • For a second I thought you were talking Warrior Within and was scratchin my head. Thanks for the heads up.

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    • Also, do we consider it canon? Some of the flavor text added by Mechner in the document, gives more info on the Prince's background, even naming his birth Kingdom.

      Edit: At least the things that don't contradict the game, the are couple of those things too.

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  • Hey! My name is Atvelonis, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for the Prince of Persia Wiki as well as an admin on Elder Scrolls. I'm here to help you and the wider community, and act as a liaison between you and Fandom Staff. If you ever have any questions or issues related to the wiki, its features (editing, templates, bots, etc.), or whatever else, feel free to reach out to me on my message wall or on Discord (Atvelonis#9495) and I can help out! —Atvelonis (talk) 16:42, May 6, 2019 (UTC)

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    • Hey, Atvelonis.

      Thanks for introducing yourself. I'll definitely approach you should the need arise.

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  • Hi, I've noticed couple of bugs. One is the Stub template, which in wide-screen monitors messes with the article. Changing the size of the image to 45px might resolve that, but then it would look weird in the 4:3 monitors.

    The other is the favicon thing, it won't show the correct icon in the bookmarks, or in the bookmarks toolbar (even though it shows the correct icon in the tab). I'm guessing it's more of a Firefox problem since it is working perfectly in the IE and Edge. I don't have an idea how to fix that though, maybe reuploading the icon helps.

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    • Adding the article name fixed the stub template. Thanks.

      Could I trouble you to edit "Template:PoP series" a little. The "Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time" links to the disambiguation page. I also added pages for "Prince of Persia: Time Run" and "Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (GBA)", those could be added to the list.

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    • That's good to hear. And, yes, I can definitely can add those to the series template. And if you're not able to, I'll unlock it so registered users can add things to the template.

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  • Welcome Back!

    I just wanted to take the time to ask about the swords. I placed "Biography" on the Water Sword page because most of the other swords on this wiki has a bio. But I'm assuming by the talk page you just recently created we don't want that due to it sounding like a character article.

    If this is the case, I can tend to some of the pages and use the water sword page as a structured reference, if that's okay with you.

    ~BLK

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    • Yeah, one of the intents with updating the weapon articles and the infoboxes for the weapon articles from "object" to "weapons" was to basically ensure that there was no confusion between language used in them verses character articles where a "Biography" heading would be necessary.

      I managed to correct some of the SOT weapon articles because the number of weapons were fewer, but got distracted straightening up other things around the Wiki and never returned to WW weapon articles even after I got the guide.

      But, yeah, the basic template you want to use with weapon and object articles is:

      • Abilities - When describing what the weapon can do in the game that ties into the narrative.
      • Gameplay - When something connected to the weapon is dependent on collecting items or, gaining a "secret ending" or "secret level" (for example).
      • History - When the narrative use of the weapon is unique enough that it is not repeating information covered in the "Abilities" and "Gameplay" subheadings.
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    • Lily Ford wrote: Yeah, one of the intents with updating the weapon articles and the infoboxes for the weapon articles from "object" to "weapons" was to basically ensure that there was no confusion between language used in them verses character articles where a "Biography" heading would be necessary.

      I managed to correct some of the SOT weapon articles because the number of weapons were fewer, but got distracted straightening up other things around the Wiki and never returned to WW weapon articles even after I got the guide.

      But, yeah, the basic template you want to use with weapon and object articles is:

      • Abilities - When describing what the weapon can do in the game that ties into the narrative.
      • Gameplay - When something connected to the weapon is dependent on collecting items or, gaining a "secret ending" or "secret level" (for example).
      • History - When the narrative use of the weapon is unique enough that it is not repeating information covered in the "Abilities" and "Gameplay" subheadings.

      Okay Got it!

      Also, a trivia heading as well I assume? ~BLK

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    • Yeah, a Trivia heading as well when something "trivial" needs mentioning.

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  • Hey me again,

    I just wanted to ask before I do anything, do we steer clear of putting thumbnails in the articles? If so are galleries okay? I was going to add a picture of King Sharaman from TTT dead in the well, but if you don't think it is a good idea just let me know.

    Screenshot sha







    I have not done it yet, just wanted to check with you first.

    ~BlueLobsterKing

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    • Alright, thank you. Like I said earlier, I'm still getting use to this type of wiki set up. This is the first time I've had to add references as such. I tried to, but it gave me red words.

      I really do appreciate you taking the time to give me examples. I also did not know how to word it because most wikis are walk-through style, but I knew it was a little different on here.

      Well I will try again w/ another location, but if there is not an official screen shot or concept art available, should I just leave the image blank, or should I upload my own screen shot?

      ~BlueLobsterKing

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    • It's not a problem. Walkthrough language is fine, but it's definitely something you only wanna use when you're writing a gameplay segment in an article (like for the enemy pages) or a literal walkthrough article (which is something we're still working on because we'll need a lot of folk for that given the number of POP games.)

      Just upload your own screenshot if there isn't an official one to use. You could also check out a resource like Warrior Within's Steam page (their screenshot community is pretty good at capturing high quality images of locations and characters. Just be mindful not to use images with subtitles on them.). If you have a graphics program (like GIMP or Photoshop), you could also try to brighten the image if it comes out too dark.

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