There is a kb artwork that has a man holding the staff and if you look closely you can see that the boots he is wearing the same boots that the cloaked man is wearing so it was the doppelganger in the ending and the dark prince in kb has a daggertail and a jacket but in the ww ending the doppelganger doesn't have the daggertail and is wearing a similar armour to the ww armour so it is not the dark prince and why would they create the same scene with the same character twice so think about it.
Dude, have you heard of development? When they made WW they added that scene in to tease a sequel, they probably didn't have any story ideas laid out yet, but just a general idea. As the idea developed Daggertail was added and look was changed.
And where is that image you keep talking about? As I said earlier, if you reference stuff it's hard to call bullshit on things.
I guess you mean this image (only one that shows a dark figure holding staff), but there is no way of seeing that they share boots, or any other characteristic. I even uploaded bigger and clearer image (biggest I could find), and still the design of the boots is not visible. Since the only one who has wielded the Staff is Vizier, the most logical answer is it's Vizier.
Ah, some google search reveled that you take fan fiction as truth. Everything you have said this dude also says. Your legitimacy has been thrown out of the window.
So the vizier is not %100 confirmed but logically though he can't create an army without the power of the sands and lets assume the doppelganger is in that picture the fans say that he created an army with the dagger in the past and attack babylon and they say he pulled the dagger and the staff from the past which is logical imo so i do think that the man in the ww ending is the dark prince but from the things that we saw from the trailer and the demos the doppelganger is the logical answer and the vizier imo is more like a light atmosphere villain and also in the kb page it says that the prince travels back in time but in the ign page they say he doesn't so that should be changed and the dagger in the artworks is nothing like the dagger of time so in conclusion the page can keep the vizier but still there is no evidence for both villains but imo the doppelganger is the villain of kb.
It's 3.60 am for me right now, and I'm on mobile. I can write more indept reasons for you tomorrow, if you are not blocked by then. But before I go to bed, I ask you this: You are aware of how Vizier looks in The Two Thrones, right?
During this Kaileena sacrificed herself, thus creating the Sands of Time that then turned the invading army to sandmonsters (proof).
The thing with trailers is that they are often shown out of chronological order, so just because sand monster was shown before Kaileena's sacrifice does not mean there were monsters before the sacrifice.
Second: that figure on the concept art. On all three pictures there is a man in a dark cloak wielding the Staff of Time. Therefor it must be Vizier. Even more so because Dark Prince is not wearing a cape, yes he is dressed in all black but he only has a hood.
In the IGN article Yannis Mallat sais that Prince won't be able to go back in time. He does not tell the specifics. My understanding of it is: he can't go back in time ala The Great Rewind of SoT, or the Time Gates of WW. The small rewind gameplay function we have seen in the SoT and WW would still be in the game probably.
Yannis Mallat didn't mention the Dagger of Time at all, so whether it exists or not can't be confirmed. He did mention the Daggertail though, so why do you keep saying there was no Daggertail.
There however is no mention of a separate entity Doppelganger who goes back in time and pulls artifacts out of time and attacks with sand army... That is pure fiction.
Actually the more I read about the development of the Two Thrones, I get the impression that there were no two games. It was always the same. Yes little things were changed. Kaileena's dead was changed, and both outfits of Player character was changed, that's it. And people go around making fanfictions and petitions about releasing a game that didn't even exist.
Okay I figured it out the Vizier was resurrected after the Prince killed the Dahaka and therefore he raided Babylon with the army that he took from India, after he became Zurvan he created the Sand Snake to take the amulet from the Prince and the Doppelganger to control and lead the army with the Staff and the Dagger’s colour fade away because he used all of its power and Kaileena’s power to transform but the transformation was not shown the Prince realized that Zurvan is the Vizier by the mark on his head. The story is so much better than ttt,more sensible and more exciting. The dagger in ttt didn’t lose its powers because they decided to get rid of the medallion an the man in that picture can’t be the vizier because in the picture the man has black hair but in ttt we can see that the Vizier doesn’t have any hair as seen while transforming into Zurvan and also he always wanted to be a god and an immortal as he mentioned in sot and farah in ttt so he can’t have the staff while having a flaming body even if it is a concept art.
Do you see any hair on the Vizier pictures, he's wearing a black turban.
Also do you have any proof of what you just said? Pictures, links to developers talking, videos, anything? If it just some fans speculating and filling the missing story sections with their fanfiction then it is not real canon for the games.
He always wore that hat don't tell me he had a turban after transforming and the sand snake appears in the pop 3 mobile game and i can't see a long beard in the kb concept art i only see a boned face like the prince's and we never got to know what happened to the staff in ttt i do think that in the ww ending the cloaked man is the dark prince and i even said that the vizier is the main villain he created the doppelganger to control and lead the army with the staff like the vizier did in sot. There were more bosses because the game would have been 17 hours or longer. Major changes were made in ttt. Dark prince,kaileena's death,atmosphere,stealth kills,less enemies,less weapons,no amulet,the main purpose of the game,prince and kaileena's faces,adding in farah,no open world,just one ending and the costume of the prince and also the dagger in the gameplay of kb looks a lot like the dagger of time the main purpose was to re-create the dagger and give its powers back with the portals like in ttt to kill zurvan.
Also mobile game story by Gameloft? You do know what Prince does in the mobile as a story right? He saves sexy ladies from the evil Vizier...Kind of like, I don't know, this old game from the same company - Prince of Persia: Harem Adventures.
And you may have said that the invaders are humans but on the kb page it says sand monsters invading babylon and you shared your thought as well and no developer said that the vizier is the main boss or the invaders were humans and also no websites say that.
The kindred Blades page has some left over vandalism on it, if you look at the history. Someone who too was adding Doppelganger information on it, changed some of the referenced things to opposite version.
Java game made by another company is not a reliable source for anything. Yes they might of used the old transformation system, but that does not mean the game's story is canon.
Or maybe the mobile game is what the Kindred Blades was supposed to be, and Viziers grand plan to take over the world was to kidnap the Persian women....
Of course the main target is not the harem girls but capturing their women can mean a lot of things and I never said it was all canon and also it is an official pop3 game so they have to make somethings that were in kb and they gave away the vizier and since kb was supposed to be a dark game they had to replace the Dahaka and also in the game the sand snake appears more than once so it must be a giveaway as well.
Wow you actually took the java story seriously. All Gameloft java games have half-assed story. SoT, WW, and FS all have different stories. Does that mean every single PoP game was changed in the last minute, and java games are the trues story? Of course not. Gameloft just didn't know the real story, and gobbled together something similar to that of a main game, so they could push out a mobile game.
I didn't say it is the true story i just said they have to put somethings in the game. All the enemies are not in the game,Vizier is in the game,there were harem levels in kb as seen in the artworks that were shown in the making of pop 3 video you can watch it on youtube and the dark prince fight in the game represents the mental realm and also the games were similar but very different they scrapped the idea of the sand snake because it wouldn't fit in a light atmosphere game and also the other reason is Farah they can't have a snake chasing you while there is Farah and kindred blades was scrapped due to console limitations and sot fans. And also the GBA version of sot had some animals that were cut from the game,lizards and more. The Two Thrones didn't anything to pop3 the game's levels were from kindred blades and they even did some minor changes on the level designs to avoid the open world. Since the Vizier was always the main villain, he always wanted to become Zurvan and he had the dagger and the staff until he transformed. The Dagger's colour faded away because of the transformation and that didn't happen in ttt because they removed the amulet. Even you guys say in the kb page that he had the dagger so the story is to re-create the dagger and kill Zurvan. The Snake's main purpose was to get the medallion from the Prince and kill him since in ttt Zurvan never fought the Prince because he had other jobs to do and the snake was cut because of the change of the atmosphere and adding Farah. Kindred Blades still had Klompa,Mahasti,Stone Guardian,The Twins and Kindred Blades would have added in Old Man,Sharaman and Mehri as boss fights since the Old Man is in the lower city and the streets were invaded He would have been transformed in ttt it never made sense that the old man somehow survived. Sharaman would have been transformed and thrown into the Well unlike in ttt where he is found dead. Darius and the Prince's love interest would have made into the game as there is a woman in the Harem concept art. The game was 17 hours or more. Mehri would have fought against the sand monsters but would have been transformed eventually as in the description of kb it says that the people were turned against the Prince because they were transformed. The Doppelganger was a creation of Zurvan and he was the general of the army and they were controlled by the staff, the cloaked man is the Dark Prince, Doppelganger was a different entity that was not shown in the trailers like Zurvan,The Twins,Stone Guardian,Mehri and Sharaman. In the concept art the face shape of the man that is holding the staff perfectly fits the face shape of the prince. He has the attire of the prince without the amulet but the attire is all black and i can see a black scarf as well,black hair,grey skin (seen as white in light) The vizier in sot had a normal skin and it wouldn't make sense to change his skin colour and he would never wear a turban and baggy clothes because he is the vizier. The flaming body is to represent the evilness and lets be realistic a god or a normal human wouldn't look like that only a creature would look like that. The babel tower was divided into two sections, the defensive layer and the high level where you can find palaces,apartments,bedrooms,kitchens,harems,brothels and the throne room. The final fight was going to be at the top of the babel tower like ttt where we would've fought Zurvan (the Vizier) and maybe there were 1 or 2 more boss fights. Kindred Blades would have reintroduced the animals that were cut from sot and the bladedancers,assassins,silhouttes and keepers from ww would have been reintroduced as well with different designs. The snake's mission was to get the medallion and kill the Prince, Doppelganger's mission was to lead the army, transform the people. He was the general because he knows the Prince's war plan and tactics and Zurvan was controlling all of them. Since there was no Farah maybe the Prince would have somehow resurrected her because in some official video that i don't remember said that "What would you do to bring her back?". TTT changed the atmosphere,storytelling,the dark prince,transformation,added in farah,changed kaileena's death,changed the level designs to avoid the open world,The faces of Kaileena and the Prince,Prince's attire,removed the medallion,main purpose of the game,added in narrating like in sot,removed so many levels,removed blood and gore,removed some of ww's moveset,removed some enemies,added in qt events and removed the snake and the doppelganger. Zurvan was the sot boss and the doppelganger was the ww boss and the snake was in between. Since kb was a game that will pleasure both fans, the medallion was ww,the dagger was sot,combat was ww,storytelling was sot and the prince was ww. The portals that were in ttt had a major role in the story, they would have slowly give the dagger its appearance back and give the medallion the power of the sands. There were more chariot races at least 8. The Golems were still in kb. 10 life upgrades like in sot with the fountains in ttt. Stone guardian was the replacement for the Thrall. Mahasti was the replacement for Shahdee. The Snake was the replacement for the Dahaka. Mehri was going to be the replacement for Kaileena and there would have been a replacement for the Griffin as well. The sewer sand monsters were the replacement for the executioners and the invisible creatures were the replacement for the Ghosts in ww. The Mental Realm was different as well as there are screenshots of them. That's all i have to say and enjoy the concept arts.
The story you tell gets bigger and bigger each time you tell it, new enemies pop up, and more characters are appearing. Are you even keeping track of your lies. Non of what you said is shown in the art you posted.
This is pointless. I won't be responding to you any further.
Don't respond i don't care but remember a 17 hour game can't be as small as you think and that is all the story and even if i tried to i can't because that is all of it i wrote less because i just pointed out the main things and don't respond and the things you have told doesn't appear in kb and no developer or no official sites said that the vizier in as well and also you say that the java game is all fake but remember ubisoft gives the permission to them and tells them the information about the game the "real" pop3 they can't make a game that is all fake it is an official pop3 game ffs even it is a java game if it was all fake why would they spoil the vizier the enemies are fake but the snake is real only those 2 things are real and since they wanted to make a game that will pleasure both fans the storytelling was sot and the plot was ww and since it is a dark game even in the trailer the prince is being chased by guards but that is just a tease for the snake since he is haunted and captured by an army and on top of that a snake that is missioned to kill him that is how the prince keeps his dark character and in ttt just an army is trying to kill him and since ww he literally killed every single living creature on the island an army is the same that is why he acts like how he was in sot so please don't call anything fake before thinking twice and also you are just saying fake and lies just to not lose relevancy so i am going to shut up and you are going to shut up as well because at the end of the day we are talking about a game that was never released.